Paul really needed people around him to tell him when his stuff wasn't very good.Inder wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 10:57amNow this is real music:Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 10:56amPursuing the Heston vote is an unconventional election strategy. Will it pay off? Only time will tell.
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I feel like the variety of differences between scenes and definitions of hardcore make it a genre that has bands I love and bands I cannot get behind.
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From the late, great Timothy White's review for Rolling Stone: "Who, one felt compelled to ask, is in charge here? Back to the Egg provides the final, obvious answer: no one."Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 11:12amPaul really needed people around him to tell him when his stuff wasn't very good.Inder wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 10:57amNow this is real music:Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑06 Jul 2018, 10:56amPursuing the Heston vote is an unconventional election strategy. Will it pay off? Only time will tell.
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Great way to sum it up. I agree 100%.
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Inder's gonna have your legs broke, son.WestwayKid wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 2:28pmFrom the late, great Timothy White's review for Rolling Stone: "Who, one felt compelled to ask, is in charge here? Back to the Egg provides the final, obvious answer: no one."
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Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 2:57pmInder's gonna have your legs broke, son.WestwayKid wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 2:28pmFrom the late, great Timothy White's review for Rolling Stone: "Who, one felt compelled to ask, is in charge here? Back to the Egg provides the final, obvious answer: no one."
I like some tracks on Egg, but it is pretty rudderless. The music video for Spin it On with the embarrassing punk gurning is a particular low.
The worst is Getting Closer — killer tune, but absolutely atrocious lyrics. Like, a complete and total nadir. It's as if he was trying to prove John and Yoko's "moon-June-spoon" sniping right.
Fab live rendition here, though:[Chorus]
Say you don't love him, my salamander
Why do you need him?
Oh no, don't answer, oh no
I'm getting closer
I'm getting closer to your heart
[Verse 1]
Keeping ahead of the rain on the road
Watching my windscreen wipers
Radio play me a dancable ode
Cattle beware of snipers
[Chorus 2]
When will you see me, my salamander?
Don't try to tell me
Oh no, don't answer, oh no
I'm getting closer
I'm getting closer to your heart
[Verse 2]
Hitting the chisel and making a joint
Gluing my fingers together (together)
Radio play me a song with a point
Sailor beware of weather (weather)
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I listened to this one earlier.Inder wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 3:12pmDr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 2:57pmInder's gonna have your legs broke, son.WestwayKid wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 2:28pmFrom the late, great Timothy White's review for Rolling Stone: "Who, one felt compelled to ask, is in charge here? Back to the Egg provides the final, obvious answer: no one."
I like some tracks on Egg, but it is pretty rudderless. The music video for Spin it On with the embarrassing punk gurning is a particular low.
The worst is Getting Closer — killer tune, but absolutely atrocious lyrics. Like, a complete and total nadir. It's as if he was trying to prove John and Yoko's "moon-June-spoon" sniping right.
Fab live rendition here, though:[Chorus]
Say you don't love him, my salamander
Why do you need him?
Oh no, don't answer, oh no
I'm getting closer
I'm getting closer to your heart
[Verse 1]
Keeping ahead of the rain on the road
Watching my windscreen wipers
Radio play me a dancable ode
Cattle beware of snipers
[Chorus 2]
When will you see me, my salamander?
Don't try to tell me
Oh no, don't answer, oh no
I'm getting closer
I'm getting closer to your heart
[Verse 2]
Hitting the chisel and making a joint
Gluing my fingers together (together)
Radio play me a song with a point
Sailor beware of weather (weather)
I don't know if it's gets me in your gang, but I thought it was pretty good.
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Now listening to this.
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If Paul had developed working relationships—real peer collaboration and critique—like he had in the Beatles, I have no doubt his post-Beatles work would have been so much better, with fewer cringeworthy moments. A very small sample/example, but those albums he did with Youth as The Fireman are marvellous and demonstrate he can move out of his comfort zone. It's great when people don't need others as that sounding board/inspiration/collaboration, but it's no crime that some great artists do need it.
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Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 3:44pmIf Paul had developed working relationships—real peer collaboration and critique—like he had in the Beatles, I have no doubt his post-Beatles work would have been so much better, with fewer cringeworthy moments. A very small sample/example, but those albums he did with Youth as The Fireman are marvellous and demonstrate he can move out of his comfort zone. It's great when people don't need others as that sounding board/inspiration/collaboration, but it's no crime that some great artists do need it.
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Marky Dread wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 3:55pmDr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 3:44pmIf Paul had developed working relationships—real peer collaboration and critique—like he had in the Beatles, I have no doubt his post-Beatles work would have been so much better, with fewer cringeworthy moments. A very small sample/example, but those albums he did with Youth as The Fireman are marvellous and demonstrate he can move out of his comfort zone. It's great when people don't need others as that sounding board/inspiration/collaboration, but it's no crime that some great artists do need it.
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I'm going to defend it. Not for being good but for tackling the album as a non musician. When you consider how great other musicians are and the turkeys they turn out, at least Lydon has that excuse.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 3:56pmMarky Dread wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 3:55pmDr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 3:44pmIf Paul had developed working relationships—real peer collaboration and critique—like he had in the Beatles, I have no doubt his post-Beatles work would have been so much better, with fewer cringeworthy moments. A very small sample/example, but those albums he did with Youth as The Fireman are marvellous and demonstrate he can move out of his comfort zone. It's great when people don't need others as that sounding board/inspiration/collaboration, but it's no crime that some great artists do need it.
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I've made a similar argument in the past. It's not a good album, apart from a few neat parts, but I respect the guy for trying given that he isn't a musician. Public failure is something most of us would avoid like the plague.Marky Dread wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 4:22pmI'm going to defend it. Not for being good but for tackling the album as a non musician. When you consider how great other musicians are and the turkeys they turn out, at least Lydon has that excuse.
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Agreed absoloutely.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 4:28pmI've made a similar argument in the past. It's not a good album, apart from a few neat parts, but I respect the guy for trying given that he isn't a musician. Public failure is something most of us would avoid like the plague.Marky Dread wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 4:22pmI'm going to defend it. Not for being good but for tackling the album as a non musician. When you consider how great other musicians are and the turkeys they turn out, at least Lydon has that excuse.
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Interesting point. It got me thinking about the work he did with Elvis Costello (get well soon) back in the late 80's. I've read it wasn't the best of working relationships - but they bashed out some pretty good songs.Dr. Medulla wrote: ↑09 Jul 2018, 3:44pmIf Paul had developed working relationships—real peer collaboration and critique—like he had in the Beatles, I have no doubt his post-Beatles work would have been so much better, with fewer cringeworthy moments. A very small sample/example, but those albums he did with Youth as The Fireman are marvellous and demonstrate he can move out of his comfort zone. It's great when people don't need others as that sounding board/inspiration/collaboration, but it's no crime that some great artists do need it.
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