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Re: Need advice quick

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:35pm
Heston wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:11pm
I'm all for Kory giving it a go and subverting shit into his own agenda.
Your understanding of subversion is distinct from every other sentient creature in the Milky Way.
Your average sentient creature doesn't get the Starship Code. Only those of us who have been touched have the Knowledge.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Re: Need advice quick

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Heston wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:40pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:35pm
Heston wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:11pm
I'm all for Kory giving it a go and subverting shit into his own agenda.
Your understanding of subversion is distinct from every other sentient creature in the Milky Way.
Your average sentient creature doesn't get the Starship Code. Only those of us who have been touched have the Knowledge.
Prosecution sees no need to introduce further evidence or call additional witnesses, your honour.
"I never doubted myself for a minute for I knew that my monkey-strong bowels were girded with strength, like the loins of a dragon ribboned with fat and the opulence of buffalo dung." - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft

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Re: Need advice quick

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revbob wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 8:57pm
Kory wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 8:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 5:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 4:44pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 4:22pm
Wish you all the best mate. But personally I think that band sound awful. They come across as completely forced.

I think you are a fine musician and should start your own band with like minded people.
Kinda sounds like we have consensus here that Kory is clearly the best part of this band.
Kory has very interesting tastes in music with his love of jazz, post punk, prog etc. He is very capable of producing something way more interesting and challenging than that band.
Well the idea is that we're starting over from scratch. I think I have to play two outstanding shows with the old material because we won't have time to write anything new, but after that, it's all-new material with the same band name. We've talked about our mutual interest in Gang of Four, Magazine, etc. so hopefully something will come of that which is good without being derivative.

But yeah, I'm certainly worried that the songwriting chemistry won't be there. In which case I guess I'll jump ship.
What will the current fanbase think???
I brought up that very question to her at our meeting and she said:
a) "our fans would love to see us go in this direction."
b) "i know fans want to hear the old favorites, but they don't need to."

I'm not totally convinced that this isn't going to be an issue, so I'm playing that by ear. If "Tech Boys" is back on the table, I am not.
"Suck our Earth dick, Martians!" —Doc

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Re: Need advice quick

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:57pm
Heston wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:40pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:35pm
Heston wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:11pm
I'm all for Kory giving it a go and subverting shit into his own agenda.
Your understanding of subversion is distinct from every other sentient creature in the Milky Way.
Your average sentient creature doesn't get the Starship Code. Only those of us who have been touched have the Knowledge.
Prosecution sees no need to introduce further evidence or call additional witnesses, your honour.
:mrgreen:

If this was our last word on this subject, it would be a fitting pay off.

But it won't be.
There's a tiny, tiny hopeful part of me that says you guys are running a Kaufmanesque long con on the board

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Re: Need advice quick

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Heston wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 10:10pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:57pm
Heston wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:40pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:35pm
Heston wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:11pm
I'm all for Kory giving it a go and subverting shit into his own agenda.
Your understanding of subversion is distinct from every other sentient creature in the Milky Way.
Your average sentient creature doesn't get the Starship Code. Only those of us who have been touched have the Knowledge.
Prosecution sees no need to introduce further evidence or call additional witnesses, your honour.
:mrgreen:

If this was our last word on this subject, it would be a fitting pay off.

But it won't be.
We are Batman and the Joker—it will never end because it is so nourishing for us both.
"I never doubted myself for a minute for I knew that my monkey-strong bowels were girded with strength, like the loins of a dragon ribboned with fat and the opulence of buffalo dung." - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft

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Re: Need advice quick

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Kory wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 8:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 5:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 4:44pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 4:22pm
Wish you all the best mate. But personally I think that band sound awful. They come across as completely forced.

I think you are a fine musician and should start your own band with like minded people.
Kinda sounds like we have consensus here that Kory is clearly the best part of this band.
Kory has very interesting tastes in music with his love of jazz, post punk, prog etc. He is very capable of producing something way more interesting and challenging than that band.
Well the idea is that we're starting over from scratch. I think I have to play two outstanding shows with the old material because we won't have time to write anything new, but after that, it's all-new material with the same band name. We've talked about our mutual interest in Gang of Four, Magazine, etc. so hopefully something will come of that which is good without being derivative.

But yeah, I'm certainly worried that the songwriting chemistry won't be there. In which case I guess I'll jump ship.
I think a totally fresh approach with a new name would be better.
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My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty


We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.

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Kory wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 10:04pm
revbob wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 8:57pm
Kory wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 8:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 5:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 4:44pm


Kinda sounds like we have consensus here that Kory is clearly the best part of this band.
Kory has very interesting tastes in music with his love of jazz, post punk, prog etc. He is very capable of producing something way more interesting and challenging than that band.
Well the idea is that we're starting over from scratch. I think I have to play two outstanding shows with the old material because we won't have time to write anything new, but after that, it's all-new material with the same band name. We've talked about our mutual interest in Gang of Four, Magazine, etc. so hopefully something will come of that which is good without being derivative.

But yeah, I'm certainly worried that the songwriting chemistry won't be there. In which case I guess I'll jump ship.
What will the current fanbase think???
I brought up that very question to her at our meeting and she said:
a) "our fans would love to see us go in this direction."
b) "i know fans want to hear the old favorites, but they don't need to."

I'm not totally convinced that this isn't going to be an issue, so I'm playing that by ear. If "Tech Boys" is back on the table, I am not.
I truly hope all tbis goes reasonably well for you amd that you are able to find an outlet for your creative ideas.

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Re: Need advice quick

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:35pm
Heston wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:11pm
I'm all for Kory giving it a go and subverting shit into his own agenda.
Your understanding of subversion is distinct from every other sentient creature in the Milky Way.
It always ends here.
Image

Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty


We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.

"Without the common people you're nothing"

Nos Sumus Una Familia

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Re: Need advice quick

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Marky Dread wrote:
28 Feb 2018, 8:52am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:35pm
Heston wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:11pm
I'm all for Kory giving it a go and subverting shit into his own agenda.
Your understanding of subversion is distinct from every other sentient creature in the Milky Way.
It always ends here.
Unless it ends here:
Image
"I never doubted myself for a minute for I knew that my monkey-strong bowels were girded with strength, like the loins of a dragon ribboned with fat and the opulence of buffalo dung." - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft

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Re: Need advice quick

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
28 Feb 2018, 8:56am
Marky Dread wrote:
28 Feb 2018, 8:52am
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:35pm
Heston wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 9:11pm
I'm all for Kory giving it a go and subverting shit into his own agenda.
Your understanding of subversion is distinct from every other sentient creature in the Milky Way.
It always ends here.
Unless it ends here:
Image
I thought you were not that good at art. ;)
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Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty


We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.

"Without the common people you're nothing"

Nos Sumus Una Familia

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Re: Need advice quick

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Marky Dread wrote:
28 Feb 2018, 12:52pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
28 Feb 2018, 8:56am
Unless it ends here:
Image
I thought you were not that good at art. ;)
As the band has demonstrated for decades, KISS does not require any real skill, just shamelessness.
"I never doubted myself for a minute for I knew that my monkey-strong bowels were girded with strength, like the loins of a dragon ribboned with fat and the opulence of buffalo dung." - Richard Nixon, Checkers Speech, abandoned early draft

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Re: Need advice quick

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Dr. Medulla wrote:
28 Feb 2018, 12:59pm
Marky Dread wrote:
28 Feb 2018, 12:52pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
28 Feb 2018, 8:56am
Unless it ends here:
Image
I thought you were not that good at art. ;)
As the band has demonstrated for decades, KISS does not require any real skill, just shamelessness.
:mrgreen:
Image

Forces have been looting
My humanity
Curfews have been curbing
The end of liberty


We're the flowers in the dustbin...
No fuchsias for you.

"Without the common people you're nothing"

Nos Sumus Una Familia

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Re: Need advice quick

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Marky Dread wrote:
28 Feb 2018, 1:19am
Kory wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 8:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 5:25pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 4:44pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 4:22pm
Wish you all the best mate. But personally I think that band sound awful. They come across as completely forced.

I think you are a fine musician and should start your own band with like minded people.
Kinda sounds like we have consensus here that Kory is clearly the best part of this band.
Kory has very interesting tastes in music with his love of jazz, post punk, prog etc. He is very capable of producing something way more interesting and challenging than that band.
Well the idea is that we're starting over from scratch. I think I have to play two outstanding shows with the old material because we won't have time to write anything new, but after that, it's all-new material with the same band name. We've talked about our mutual interest in Gang of Four, Magazine, etc. so hopefully something will come of that which is good without being derivative.

But yeah, I'm certainly worried that the songwriting chemistry won't be there. In which case I guess I'll jump ship.
I think a totally fresh approach with a new name would be better.
Where the heck were you when I was agonizing over what decision to make
"Suck our Earth dick, Martians!" —Doc

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revbob wrote:
28 Feb 2018, 8:35am
Kory wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 10:04pm
revbob wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 8:57pm
Kory wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 8:52pm
Marky Dread wrote:
27 Feb 2018, 5:25pm


Kory has very interesting tastes in music with his love of jazz, post punk, prog etc. He is very capable of producing something way more interesting and challenging than that band.
Well the idea is that we're starting over from scratch. I think I have to play two outstanding shows with the old material because we won't have time to write anything new, but after that, it's all-new material with the same band name. We've talked about our mutual interest in Gang of Four, Magazine, etc. so hopefully something will come of that which is good without being derivative.

But yeah, I'm certainly worried that the songwriting chemistry won't be there. In which case I guess I'll jump ship.
What will the current fanbase think???
I brought up that very question to her at our meeting and she said:
a) "our fans would love to see us go in this direction."
b) "i know fans want to hear the old favorites, but they don't need to."

I'm not totally convinced that this isn't going to be an issue, so I'm playing that by ear. If "Tech Boys" is back on the table, I am not.
I truly hope all tbis goes reasonably well for you amd that you are able to find an outlet for your creative ideas.
Thank you. I do not have high hopes.
"Suck our Earth dick, Martians!" —Doc

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Re: Need advice quick

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Kory wrote:
28 Feb 2018, 7:42pm
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Thank you. I do not have high hopes.
I think youre approaching this in a reasonable way. Similar to a job where they tell you how things will be but you dont know for sure until you give it a try.

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