I think Madonna is similar as someone who was a huge cultural icon and when you look back at her songs there are just a handful that are good relative to a lot of other artists.
Madonna's status as a pathbreaking artist of great significance is a remarkable success story in the history of marketing. That she convinced so many, including scholars whose training is supposed to make them critical thinkers, that what she was doing was radical and threatening is mind-boggling.
I think Madonna is similar as someone who was a huge cultural icon and when you look back at her songs there are just a handful that are good relative to a lot of other artists.
Absolutely. Plus, a terrible voice. But she has a handful of gems.
Re: Awful Voices Thread
Posted: 26 Oct 2017, 4:48pm
by Inder
What really astonishes me is how Hes is getting away with dropping a casual "Enrico Caruso" on the first page of this thread.
I don't like Jagger's voice, but I wouldn't call it awful either (he doesn't kill Stones songs for me, but he doesn't help things along).
There's a weird appeal to Jagger's voice for me. However, Keith's lead vocals have always been god damn atrocious to me. How is "Happy" considered a good song by anyone? Yet it's apparently worthy of all of their best of comps. Any lead of his is an automatic skip for me. "You Got the Silver", ugh.
I think Madonna's voice is fine and got much better as she went along. A lot of very good songs, but yeah, maybe the image thing helped the superstardom.
I think Madonna's voice is fine and got much better as she went along. A lot of very good songs, but yeah, maybe the image thing helped the superstardom.
Love the song Like A Prayer, love her singing on it.
Should have posted that in the "Hot Takes" thread.
I love Mick's singing and I love his songs. Doesn't mean his voice isn't thin, reedy, and even a bit nasally. He covers it up well with great tunes, spirited delivery, double tracking, stacked harmonies (Bottom Line, for example), and co-leads with Joe. If you put Mick in a lesser band, it would be a lot more obvious.
What I find telling is listening to the Mick songs that have Joe parts vs. the Joe songs with Mick parts. Whenever Joe shows up in the middle of a Mick song, it's this warm, passionate presence (Something About England is very glaring, but also live Somebody Got Murdered) and it elicits excitement in me. When Mick shows up on a Joe song, it never elicits much out of me (Clampdown for example).
all right, how many conductors can you name