2018 Rock and Roll HOF Nominations

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*snicker* The word "wrong" stands like a raven on Hoy's shoulder.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 3:50pm
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*snicker* The word "wrong" stands like a raven on Hoy's shoulder.
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JennyB wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 2:45pm
matedog wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 1:42pm
JennyB wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 1:38pm
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Bumping this thread for a myriad of reasons (also missed it the first time). Mostly to shit on DM. Matt Patrol and I got in a debate on facebook on the Doors vs. DM. My argument was that DM had "Just Can't Get Enough" and...a bunch of really drab stuff that is a real chore to listen to. Blasphemous Rumors? Uggggh. Radiohead>DM for me. And I don't even like Radiohead that much.
Hey, to each their own. They didn't get in anyway.
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Though I like Bon Jovi, I know they aren't good and really have no place ahead of so many of these bands/artists.
You've heard the Bon Jovi cover of LC, right?
Yeah. It's bad, but not shockingly bad. Kinda what you'd expect.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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18 Dec 2017, 2:01pm
I'm kind of baffled how a debate would arise pitting the Doors vs. Depeche Mode. Both use keyboards, I guess, but it seems an odd match-up.

Next: Gordie Howe vs. Teddy Kennedy—who ya got?
He threw out a list of bands he could never like because of their fans. The Dead, Phish, Misfits, The Doors and Pink Floyd. I came to the defense of The Doors, but we agreed on Morrison's generally awful/obnoxious lyrics. He threw out a "hot take" that DM was better.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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What the hell is wrong with Misfits fans? Just because they all wear the skull shirt? I love the Misfits!
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matedog wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 4:32pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 2:01pm
I'm kind of baffled how a debate would arise pitting the Doors vs. Depeche Mode. Both use keyboards, I guess, but it seems an odd match-up.

Next: Gordie Howe vs. Teddy Kennedy—who ya got?
He threw out a list of bands he could never like because of their fans. The Dead, Phish, Misfits, The Doors and Pink Floyd. I came to the defense of The Doors, but we agreed on Morrison's generally awful/obnoxious lyrics. He threw out a "hot take" that DM was better.
I honestly don't get not liking a band because of the fans. It's not like joining a religion, where you're taking on other people along with certain values. You have the option of making it an individual, marketplace transaction. Deadheads and Phish fans are stinky cultists, but my overriding interest is that jam bands fucking suck. If Deadheads went around curing cancer, cool, but I'm still not interested in listening to some boring-ass grooviness from 1971 that goes on forever.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 4:42pm
matedog wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 4:32pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 2:01pm
I'm kind of baffled how a debate would arise pitting the Doors vs. Depeche Mode. Both use keyboards, I guess, but it seems an odd match-up.

Next: Gordie Howe vs. Teddy Kennedy—who ya got?
He threw out a list of bands he could never like because of their fans. The Dead, Phish, Misfits, The Doors and Pink Floyd. I came to the defense of The Doors, but we agreed on Morrison's generally awful/obnoxious lyrics. He threw out a "hot take" that DM was better.
I honestly don't get not liking a band because of the fans. It's not like joining a religion, where you're taking on other people along with certain values. You have the option of making it an individual, marketplace transaction. Deadheads and Phish fans are stinky cultists, but my overriding interest is that jam bands fucking suck. If Deadheads went around curing cancer, cool, but I'm still not interested in listening to some boring-ass grooviness from 1971 that goes on forever.
I would imagine Doors and Floyd fans are just, like, normal humans. Nondescript, as it were.
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Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 4:42pm
I honestly don't get not liking a band because of the fans. It's not like joining a religion, where you're taking on other people along with certain values. You have the option of making it an individual, marketplace transaction. Deadheads and Phish fans are stinky cultists, but my overriding interest is that jam bands fucking suck. If Deadheads went around curing cancer, cool, but I'm still not interested in listening to some boring-ass grooviness from 1971 that goes on forever.
I think it depends on how much stock you put in the social component of music, no? A lot of of what I like about my favorite bands is, like, being able to talk about the music and enjoy it with other like-minded folks. Works great when the other people that like that music aren't total shitheads (IMCT excepted, of course :shifty: ), but kind of a bummer if you find everyone else who shares your tastes to be insufferable. There's plenty of music I sorta-like that I don't really care about this aspect, but I admit that when it comes to what I'm most passionate about, I value being able to share in that passion with others. If I were a massive Phish fan, that would be a bummer from that perspective.

Another thought is that for some music, it's just another reason to hate something you already don't like. I don't like Phish, so finding their fans excruciating is just another fun little bonus that I get to complain about.
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Kory wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 5:02pm
I would imagine Doors and Floyd fans are just, like, normal humans. Nondescript, as it were.
I can imagine Doors fans were more annoying two generations ago when Morrison-worship was at its zenith, but who really thinks or talks that way anymore? Pretty much no self-professed Doors fans that I'm familiar with.

Floyd fans are the original normcore imho
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Kory wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 5:02pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 4:42pm
matedog wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 4:32pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 2:01pm
I'm kind of baffled how a debate would arise pitting the Doors vs. Depeche Mode. Both use keyboards, I guess, but it seems an odd match-up.

Next: Gordie Howe vs. Teddy Kennedy—who ya got?
He threw out a list of bands he could never like because of their fans. The Dead, Phish, Misfits, The Doors and Pink Floyd. I came to the defense of The Doors, but we agreed on Morrison's generally awful/obnoxious lyrics. He threw out a "hot take" that DM was better.
I honestly don't get not liking a band because of the fans. It's not like joining a religion, where you're taking on other people along with certain values. You have the option of making it an individual, marketplace transaction. Deadheads and Phish fans are stinky cultists, but my overriding interest is that jam bands fucking suck. If Deadheads went around curing cancer, cool, but I'm still not interested in listening to some boring-ass grooviness from 1971 that goes on forever.
I would imagine Doors and Floyd fans are just, like, normal humans. Nondescript, as it were.
That's the other thing. There's so much variation in fandom. Super intense fans of anything are embarrassing/annoying. Those who are capable of being critical, non-possessive, tolerant of interpretation—none of that "if you were a real fan …" crap—are fine, even if their tastes might be goofy.
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The internet is jumping all over Rick and Morty fans (for obvious reasons), but, like, if you don't like fans of something, you don't HAVE to talk to them...if you can't enjoy something for your own reasons, you're kinda weak.
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Kory wrote:
18 Dec 2017, 5:27pm
The internet is jumping all over Rick and Morty fans (for obvious reasons), but, like, if you don't like fans of something, you don't HAVE to talk to them...if you can't enjoy something for your own reasons, you're kinda weak.
Eh, for realsies?

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*quietly unfriends or blocks Kory across all social media platforms*
No need to do it quietly. Be loud, be proud, be part of the righteous majority!
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I don't know. I remember thinking Jack Johnson (singer, not boxer) was pleasant enough, but people in college annoyed the shit out of me because they all used the same stupid fucking reason to describe why they liked him: "he's so chill."
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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I guess I have to deal with Bruce's dumb old fans too.
Look, you have to establish context for these things. And I maintain that unless you appreciate the Fall of Constantinople, the Great Fire of London, and Mickey Mantle's fatalist alcoholism, live Freddy makes no sense. If you want to half-ass it, fine, go call Simon Schama to do the appendix.

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