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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Marky Dread » 01 Nov 2017, 4:50pm

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I like it with its 60's retro feel. Not sure about red band at the top. Can't really see the point of that as the typography is also a very similar colour.
Perhaps the retro faux authenticity? That is, the label they were seeking to imitate might have done that for all their sleeves. Just a guess, tho.
I think you are probably correct mate. I think they should of at least used a different font colour or band and pulled the font down so it's not touching the band
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Dr. Medulla » 01 Nov 2017, 4:56pm

Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:50pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:34pm
I like it with its 60's retro feel. Not sure about red band at the top. Can't really see the point of that as the typography is also a very similar colour.
Perhaps the retro faux authenticity? That is, the label they were seeking to imitate might have done that for all their sleeves. Just a guess, tho.
I think you are probably correct mate. I think they should of at least used a different font colour or band and pulled the font down so it's not touching the band
Yeah, drop the word "Memoirs" just a hair to put in the illusion of a black border.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Marky Dread » 01 Nov 2017, 5:00pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:56pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:50pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:34pm
I like it with its 60's retro feel. Not sure about red band at the top. Can't really see the point of that as the typography is also a very similar colour.
Perhaps the retro faux authenticity? That is, the label they were seeking to imitate might have done that for all their sleeves. Just a guess, tho.
I think you are probably correct mate. I think they should of at least used a different font colour or band and pulled the font down so it's not touching the band
Yeah, drop the word "Memoirs" just a hair to put in the illusion of a black border.
Perfect. See how easy it is. ;)
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Wolter » 01 Nov 2017, 5:11pm

I find the above discussion fascinating because for years I've been asked why I don't try graphic design as a more stable career path, and when I say "because I'm an illustrator, not a designer. I have no idea how to design," I get blank stares. They are very different skill sets that some people happen to be able to balance. I do not have that balance.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Marky Dread » 01 Nov 2017, 5:15pm

Wolter wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 5:11pm
I find the above discussion fascinating because for years I've been asked why I don't try graphic design as a more stable career path, and when I say "because I'm an illustrator, not a designer. I have no idea how to design," I get blank stares. They are very different skill sets that some people happen to be able to balance. I do not have that balance.
Maybe both you and Doc have a point about people with a good eye I never really give it a second thought.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Dr. Medulla » 01 Nov 2017, 5:17pm

Wolter wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 5:11pm
I find the above discussion fascinating because for years I've been asked why I don't try graphic design as a more stable career path, and when I say "because I'm an illustrator, not a designer. I have no idea how to design," I get blank stares. They are very different skill sets that some people happen to be able to balance. I do not have that balance.
Even tho you know how to do a layout for your illustrations? I don't doubt that it's still different than graphic design, but it's interesting to me that there's still enough of a gap that you don't feel you have that skill.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Wolter » 01 Nov 2017, 6:30pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 5:17pm
Wolter wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 5:11pm
I find the above discussion fascinating because for years I've been asked why I don't try graphic design as a more stable career path, and when I say "because I'm an illustrator, not a designer. I have no idea how to design," I get blank stares. They are very different skill sets that some people happen to be able to balance. I do not have that balance.
Even tho you know how to do a layout for your illustrations? I don't doubt that it's still different than graphic design, but it's interesting to me that there's still enough of a gap that you don't feel you have that skill.
I can do basic composition, but font and color choices and proper informational display beyond simple narrative are not my strong points. I'm probably better than a total layman, but I'm not well versed in theory and techniques of design.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Dr. Medulla » 01 Nov 2017, 7:08pm

Wolter wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 6:30pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 5:17pm
Wolter wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 5:11pm
I find the above discussion fascinating because for years I've been asked why I don't try graphic design as a more stable career path, and when I say "because I'm an illustrator, not a designer. I have no idea how to design," I get blank stares. They are very different skill sets that some people happen to be able to balance. I do not have that balance.
Even tho you know how to do a layout for your illustrations? I don't doubt that it's still different than graphic design, but it's interesting to me that there's still enough of a gap that you don't feel you have that skill.
I can do basic composition, but font and color choices and proper informational display beyond simple narrative are not my strong points. I'm probably better than a total layman, but I'm not well versed in theory and techniques of design.
That's just it—recognizing that there's something distinct about a skill, that it's not necessarily elastic or transferable. My family doesn't understand when I tell them that I'm not much of a writer. Technically, sure, because I'm a copy editor I'm competent and can avoid common errors, but true writing injects a spirit into the text that brings it to life. And I don't have that. I can recognize that deficiency in my text but I can't fix it. Obviously it's good enough to fool people in academia, but I'd never be able to con a real writer.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Kory » 01 Nov 2017, 8:28pm

Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 5:00pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:56pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:50pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:34pm
I like it with its 60's retro feel. Not sure about red band at the top. Can't really see the point of that as the typography is also a very similar colour.
Perhaps the retro faux authenticity? That is, the label they were seeking to imitate might have done that for all their sleeves. Just a guess, tho.
I think you are probably correct mate. I think they should of at least used a different font colour or band and pulled the font down so it's not touching the band
Yeah, drop the word "Memoirs" just a hair to put in the illusion of a black border.
Perfect. See how easy it is. ;)
I gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Dr. Medulla » 01 Nov 2017, 8:33pm

Kory wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:28pm
I gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.
I don't know how familiar you are with the history of design, but was that kind of separation that called overkill common to the era?
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Marky Dread » 01 Nov 2017, 8:39pm

Kory wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:28pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 5:00pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:56pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:50pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:41pm


Perhaps the retro faux authenticity? That is, the label they were seeking to imitate might have done that for all their sleeves. Just a guess, tho.
I think you are probably correct mate. I think they should of at least used a different font colour or band and pulled the font down so it's not touching the band
Yeah, drop the word "Memoirs" just a hair to put in the illusion of a black border.
Perfect. See how easy it is. ;)
I gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.
I wouldn't use another colour font to distract from the band. Unless it was a colour already used in the duotone. But the band is another shade of red and it doesn't work fork me merging with the font not allowing the font to stand out bold enough. You make a good point about the cramped boxes but that was a feature of those 60's style comps with a very busy looking cover leaving little if any space.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Wolter » 01 Nov 2017, 10:19pm

Kory wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:28pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 5:00pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:56pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:50pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:41pm


Perhaps the retro faux authenticity? That is, the label they were seeking to imitate might have done that for all their sleeves. Just a guess, tho.
I think you are probably correct mate. I think they should of at least used a different font colour or band and pulled the font down so it's not touching the band
Yeah, drop the word "Memoirs" just a hair to put in the illusion of a black border.
Perfect. See how easy it is. ;)
I gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.
In this case, I would say I agree with Kory, but would never have found the words he did to explain why.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Marky Dread » 02 Nov 2017, 9:59am

Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:39pm
Kory wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:28pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 5:00pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:56pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:50pm


I think you are probably correct mate. I think they should of at least used a different font colour or band and pulled the font down so it's not touching the band
Yeah, drop the word "Memoirs" just a hair to put in the illusion of a black border.
Perfect. See how easy it is. ;)
I gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.
I wouldn't use another colour font to distract from the band. Unless it was a colour already used in the duotone. But the band is another shade of red and it doesn't work fork me merging with the font not allowing the font to stand out bold enough. You make a good point about the cramped boxes but that was a feature of those 60's style comps with a very busy looking cover leaving little if any space.
OK so what I'm trying to say here is you swap the color of the band from the red to the off white and change the stereo hi-fidelity logo to the red along with the border lines.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Kory » 03 Nov 2017, 7:50pm

Marky Dread wrote:
02 Nov 2017, 9:59am
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:39pm
Kory wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:28pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 5:00pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:56pm


Yeah, drop the word "Memoirs" just a hair to put in the illusion of a black border.
Perfect. See how easy it is. ;)
I gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.
I wouldn't use another colour font to distract from the band. Unless it was a colour already used in the duotone. But the band is another shade of red and it doesn't work fork me merging with the font not allowing the font to stand out bold enough. You make a good point about the cramped boxes but that was a feature of those 60's style comps with a very busy looking cover leaving little if any space.
OK so what I'm trying to say here is you swap the color of the band from the red to the off white and change the stereo hi-fidelity logo to the red along with the border lines.
Yeah, I think I could get on board with that. Except I'd still get rid of the boxes.
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Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
Florida Timeshare (ditto)
Heraclitus (EMI)
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Kory » 03 Nov 2017, 7:52pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:33pm
Kory wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 8:28pm
I gotta disagree with you guys on this one. I think a different color band would be too distracting on this duotone cover. My bigger beef is with the separating elements. The three items are so obviously already in their little pockets that drawing the rounded rectangles around them is overkill. I think having the title merge with the red band is a good solution for making things seem integrated again, but it wouldn't be necessary without the rectangles in the first place. Merging text with color bars in this way is a big design trick for promoting integration and interaction, but it doesn't always work. In this case, it's not my favorite, but I'm not as offended as you lot.
I don't know how familiar you are with the history of design, but was that kind of separation that called overkill common to the era?
It certainly does seem very '60s, but I can't explain why or think of another example of it. It may be that they were emulating a specific label, perhaps.
Inder:
Absolutely. Here's another collection of words:

Table salt (spoon hinge)
Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
Florida Timeshare (ditto)
Heraclitus (EMI)
Developers (Developers Developers)
Boogie With Your Children

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