Covering Album Covers

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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Marky Dread » 31 Oct 2017, 5:28pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 5:04pm
Rat Patrol wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 4:51pm
Kory wrote:
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This is the correct answer: https://www.flickr.com/photos/27193825@ ... 083976781/
Heartily endorsed.
Some of us liked Mick's original mix better.

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That is definitely the sleeve for the version that includes "First Night Back in London."
You mean the best version then. You Long Time Jerk. ;)
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Kory » 31 Oct 2017, 5:41pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 5:04pm
Rat Patrol wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 4:51pm
Kory wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 4:37pm
Rat Patrol wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 4:36pm
This is the correct answer: https://www.flickr.com/photos/27193825@ ... 083976781/
Heartily endorsed.
Some of us liked Mick's original mix better.

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:shifty:
That is definitely the sleeve for the version that includes "First Night Back in London."
Mick's guitar tone in FNBIL is incredible.
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Absolutely. Here's another collection of words:

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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Kory » 31 Oct 2017, 5:43pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 4:43pm
Kory wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 4:25pm
A lot of designers will vehemently and persistently tell you that what they do isn't art, but "visual communication." Art is something you do because you want to, design is something you do because your client needs the most effective visuals to move their product.
In other words, art cannot be contaminated by commercialism and they are, in essence, degrading their own work. Whatever neuroses get you thru the night …
I don't think, though, that they consciously degrade it. Designers get off big time on making clients happy. My friend calls it "art puzzle," because there's more "right" answers than in fine art.
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Table salt (spoon hinge)
Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
Florida Timeshare (ditto)
Heraclitus (EMI)
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Dr. Medulla » 31 Oct 2017, 6:04pm

Kory wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 5:43pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 4:43pm
Kory wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 4:25pm
A lot of designers will vehemently and persistently tell you that what they do isn't art, but "visual communication." Art is something you do because you want to, design is something you do because your client needs the most effective visuals to move their product.
In other words, art cannot be contaminated by commercialism and they are, in essence, degrading their own work. Whatever neuroses get you thru the night …
I don't think, though, that they consciously degrade it. Designers get off big time on making clients happy. My friend calls it "art puzzle," because there's more "right" answers than in fine art.
Certainly, one can take pride in any work but in denying this work for hire as somehow not art requires a certain compartmentalization and likely creation of hierarchy. It really doesn't matter what form of artistic expression you're talking about, the modernist (or folk) problem persists—can expression be art if it's tied up with capitalism? Those who say no inevitably get tied up in all kinds of knots rationalizing and the like. Those who say yes risk coming off as cynical art whores. The rock v. pop conflict is centred on this, with rock going thru all those silly rationalizations to being authentic yet also populist and not in any way crassly commercial. There's a fantastic essay by a fellow named Keir Keightley that explores that crazy dynamic that has infected rock since the 60s, if you're interested.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Kory » 31 Oct 2017, 6:22pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 6:04pm
Kory wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 5:43pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 4:43pm
Kory wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 4:25pm
A lot of designers will vehemently and persistently tell you that what they do isn't art, but "visual communication." Art is something you do because you want to, design is something you do because your client needs the most effective visuals to move their product.
In other words, art cannot be contaminated by commercialism and they are, in essence, degrading their own work. Whatever neuroses get you thru the night …
I don't think, though, that they consciously degrade it. Designers get off big time on making clients happy. My friend calls it "art puzzle," because there's more "right" answers than in fine art.
Certainly, one can take pride in any work but in denying this work for hire as somehow not art requires a certain compartmentalization and likely creation of hierarchy. It really doesn't matter what form of artistic expression you're talking about, the modernist (or folk) problem persists—can expression be art if it's tied up with capitalism? Those who say no inevitably get tied up in all kinds of knots rationalizing and the like. Those who say yes risk coming off as cynical art whores. The rock v. pop conflict is centred on this, with rock going thru all those silly rationalizations to being authentic yet also populist and not in any way crassly commercial. There's a fantastic essay by a fellow named Keir Keightley that explores that crazy dynamic that has infected rock since the 60s, if you're interested.
Yes, is it readily available online?

I think what it boils down to is they would say art is for looking at, design is for informational purposes. Function follows form, rather than the other way 'round.
Inder:
Absolutely. Here's another collection of words:

Table salt (spoon hinge)
Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
Florida Timeshare (ditto)
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Dr. Medulla » 31 Oct 2017, 7:35pm

Kory wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 6:22pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 6:04pm
Kory wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 5:43pm
Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 4:43pm
Kory wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 4:25pm
A lot of designers will vehemently and persistently tell you that what they do isn't art, but "visual communication." Art is something you do because you want to, design is something you do because your client needs the most effective visuals to move their product.
In other words, art cannot be contaminated by commercialism and they are, in essence, degrading their own work. Whatever neuroses get you thru the night …
I don't think, though, that they consciously degrade it. Designers get off big time on making clients happy. My friend calls it "art puzzle," because there's more "right" answers than in fine art.
Certainly, one can take pride in any work but in denying this work for hire as somehow not art requires a certain compartmentalization and likely creation of hierarchy. It really doesn't matter what form of artistic expression you're talking about, the modernist (or folk) problem persists—can expression be art if it's tied up with capitalism? Those who say no inevitably get tied up in all kinds of knots rationalizing and the like. Those who say yes risk coming off as cynical art whores. The rock v. pop conflict is centred on this, with rock going thru all those silly rationalizations to being authentic yet also populist and not in any way crassly commercial. There's a fantastic essay by a fellow named Keir Keightley that explores that crazy dynamic that has infected rock since the 60s, if you're interested.
Yes, is it readily available online?
http://www.kinoppete.org/PDFs/Pop%20Mus ... panion.pdf

It really is a fine summary of the ideological absurdities that rockism established to claim a folk authenticity while enjoying the material trappings of pop.
I think what it boils down to is they would say art is for looking at, design is for informational purposes. Function follows form, rather than the other way 'round.
Which is to say, the modernist credo of art for art's sake.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Kory » 31 Oct 2017, 8:03pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
31 Oct 2017, 7:35pm

http://www.kinoppete.org/PDFs/Pop%20Mus ... panion.pdf

It really is a fine summary of the ideological absurdities that rockism established to claim a folk authenticity while enjoying the material trappings of pop.
Thanks!
Dr. Medulla wrote:
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Which is to say, the modernist credo of art for art's sake.
Ah yes, a return to what we were talking about a few weeks ago.
Inder:
Absolutely. Here's another collection of words:

Table salt (spoon hinge)
Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
Florida Timeshare (ditto)
Heraclitus (EMI)
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Re: Covering Album Covers

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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Kory » 01 Nov 2017, 3:18pm

Both perfect. I wouldn't change a thing.
Inder:
Absolutely. Here's another collection of words:

Table salt (spoon hinge)
Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
Florida Timeshare (ditto)
Heraclitus (EMI)
Developers (Developers Developers)
Boogie With Your Children

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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Marky Dread » 01 Nov 2017, 3:41pm

Kory wrote:
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Both perfect. I wouldn't change a thing.
Apart from a duet of both.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Kory » 01 Nov 2017, 3:58pm

Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 3:41pm
Kory wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 3:18pm
Both perfect. I wouldn't change a thing.
Apart from a duet of both.
I'd pay good money for that.
Inder:
Absolutely. Here's another collection of words:

Table salt (spoon hinge)
Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
Florida Timeshare (ditto)
Heraclitus (EMI)
Developers (Developers Developers)
Boogie With Your Children

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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Dr. Medulla » 01 Nov 2017, 4:24pm

Here's another one I like, a clearly retro design with aging built into the image. Overly clever or not?
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Marky Dread » 01 Nov 2017, 4:34pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:24pm
Here's another one I like, a clearly retro design with aging built into the image. Overly clever or not?
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I like it with its 60's retro feel. Not sure about red band at the top. Can't really see the point of that as the typography is also a very similar colour.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Dr. Medulla » 01 Nov 2017, 4:41pm

Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:34pm
I like it with its 60's retro feel. Not sure about red band at the top. Can't really see the point of that as the typography is also a very similar colour.
Perhaps the retro faux authenticity? That is, the label they were seeking to imitate might have done that for all their sleeves. Just a guess, tho.
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Re: Covering Album Covers

Post by Kory » 01 Nov 2017, 4:49pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:41pm
Marky Dread wrote:
01 Nov 2017, 4:34pm
I like it with its 60's retro feel. Not sure about red band at the top. Can't really see the point of that as the typography is also a very similar colour.
Perhaps the retro faux authenticity? That is, the label they were seeking to imitate might have done that for all their sleeves. Just a guess, tho.
Yeah it might have been something where you're flipping through all the LPs and you see a bunch of colored bands across the top of a group—"Oh it's X label!"
Inder:
Absolutely. Here's another collection of words:

Table salt (spoon hinge)
Octopus (Ukraine)
St. Petersburg (arms)
Ginger beer (cauliflower)
Pat Sajak (PSak)
Lamp post (self evident)
Florida Timeshare (ditto)
Heraclitus (EMI)
Developers (Developers Developers)
Boogie With Your Children

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