Ghost Box Music

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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by eumaas » 01 Sep 2015, 8:25pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:Some pretty fucking fantastic album sleeves on that label, too. Plenty worth mounting and framing.
If you enjoy those, you'd probably enjoy this art/design project:
http://scarfolk.blogspot.com/
The book covers are especially good.
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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by Dr. Medulla » 01 Sep 2015, 8:41pm

eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:Some pretty fucking fantastic album sleeves on that label, too. Plenty worth mounting and framing.
If you enjoy those, you'd probably enjoy this art/design project:
http://scarfolk.blogspot.com/
The book covers are especially good.
Oh my lord, there is some gorgeous genius there. I guffawed hard at this one:
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I can't not order this guy's real book.
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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by eumaas » 01 Sep 2015, 9:17pm

The first one I ever saw:
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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by Dr. Medulla » 01 Sep 2015, 9:39pm

I have decided that Heston, Marky, and Wally all grew up in this town and nothing will ever dissuade me of this, nor of the scars they must carry from the experience.
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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by eumaas » 02 Sep 2015, 4:52pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:I have decided that Heston, Marky, and Wally all grew up in this town and nothing will ever dissuade me of this, nor of the scars they must carry from the experience.
It's tempting to imagine.

I mean, wouldn't this:
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explain condom pastrami? Sealed pancakes? Fuck the Royalty being lizard people; everyone is demonically possessed.
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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by Dr. Medulla » 02 Sep 2015, 5:38pm

People need to read that blog. It's incredibly inspired work and the execution is pitch perfect.
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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by eumaas » 02 Sep 2015, 5:52pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:People need to read that blog. It's incredibly inspired work and the execution is pitch perfect.
It really is perfect. I've been praising it on FB for a while in hope it would catch on

I think it's interesting that Ghost Box and Scarfolk have converged on a similar aesthetic. I have to wonder if part of it is down to the digital age--cultural artifacts from the 70s (such as children's television in Britain) are now so widely available that even I, an American born in the 80s, can have a meaningful sense of where both are coming from.
"The only thing that really occurs to me that I can say on this is to point out how fascinating it is that the Hassan-i-Sabbah archetype keeps turning up over and over again ... He disappears up into the mountains and is never seen again. Believe me, he'll never be seen again. He'll live forever because of that."

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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by Dr. Medulla » 02 Sep 2015, 6:05pm

eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:People need to read that blog. It's incredibly inspired work and the execution is pitch perfect.
It really is perfect. I've been praising it on FB for a while in hope it would catch on

I think it's interesting that Ghost Box and Scarfolk have converged on a similar aesthetic. I have to wonder if part of it is down to the digital age--cultural artifacts from the 70s (such as children's television in Britain) are now so widely available that even I, an American born in the 80s, can have a meaningful sense of where both are coming from.
Digital technology that makes so much readily available and a postmodern sensibility that dives deeper and deeper into pastiche, breaking shit apart over and over. It's kinda curious that Simon Reynolds has lauded Ghost Box because I'm almost certain that in his book Retromania he whines that nothing new is being created, that it's all just recycling old ideas. Personally, I find the restructuring and reconfiguring of the familiar more fascinating than the exotic.
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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by eumaas » 02 Sep 2015, 6:15pm

Dr. Medulla wrote:
eumaas wrote:
Dr. Medulla wrote:People need to read that blog. It's incredibly inspired work and the execution is pitch perfect.
It really is perfect. I've been praising it on FB for a while in hope it would catch on

I think it's interesting that Ghost Box and Scarfolk have converged on a similar aesthetic. I have to wonder if part of it is down to the digital age--cultural artifacts from the 70s (such as children's television in Britain) are now so widely available that even I, an American born in the 80s, can have a meaningful sense of where both are coming from.
Digital technology that makes so much readily available and a postmodern sensibility that dives deeper and deeper into pastiche, breaking shit apart over and over. It's kinda curious that Simon Reynolds has lauded Ghost Box because I'm almost certain that in his book Retromania he whines that nothing new is being created, that it's all just recycling old ideas. Personally, I find the restructuring and reconfiguring of the familiar more fascinating than the exotic.
After listening to the stuff I mentioned in this post (of five years past!), I'm not sure much remains to be done but some kind of restructuring.

Part of what I like about Zorn, perhaps more now that he's in his 60s, is that much of his work isn't focused on pushing the avant-garde, but rather restructuralism in the service of something so old fashioned as melody. That's not to say that he doesn't still produce challenging music, but there's a lot of his music that seems relaxed and at home within conventional constraints.
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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by eumaas » 07 Sep 2015, 9:47pm

"The only thing that really occurs to me that I can say on this is to point out how fascinating it is that the Hassan-i-Sabbah archetype keeps turning up over and over again ... He disappears up into the mountains and is never seen again. Believe me, he'll never be seen again. He'll live forever because of that."

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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by eumaas » 09 Sep 2015, 10:02am

Good academic piece on the aesthetic and related media:
https://www.academia.edu/1532338/Weird_ ... e_Heritage
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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by Dr. Medulla » 09 Sep 2015, 10:14am

eumaas wrote:Good academic piece on the aesthetic and related media:
https://www.academia.edu/1532338/Weird_ ... e_Heritage
The word “hauntology” stems from the work of French philosopher Jacques Derrida,who used the term to think through Marxism and the specters that continue to hauntthe present (in particular the ghosts of political revolution)
Along the same lines, my favourite quote from Marx is: "The tradition of dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brain of the living."
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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by Dr. Medulla » 14 Sep 2015, 1:26pm

Book arrived today and it'll immediately insert itself as my bedtime book starting tonight. Just flipping thru, it contains a newspaper with a glorious headline, "Two Boys Disappear Or Something". Which neatly sums up what Strauss and Howe argued about childrearing in the 70s.
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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by Kory » 17 Sep 2015, 11:47pm

Just reading this thread for the first time. If I wasn't scrambling to throw together a used buy, I'd be listening, but I'm very much looking forward to coming back to check it out soon. Seems like some very interesting stuff.

I'd like to mention that I like Berg a lot, but Webern is my favorite. Schoenberg actually doesn't get many spins around here.
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Re: Ghost Box Music

Post by Dr. Medulla » 13 Oct 2015, 9:27am

Nowhere in the ballpark musically, but this semi-recent video from Camera Obscura pulls from that same facet of 1970s British popular culture:
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