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The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 11 Oct 2017, 11:21pm
by Rat Patrol
. . .the dipshit that filed the DMCA takedown notice today on dpwolf's Jaap Edenhall SBD remaster. I'm sure it's worth one beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelion dollars to your CD-R drive and inkjet printer, since it's only like one of the Top 3 most oft-circulating Clash boots on the interwebs and you're surely the first person on Planet Earth who in the last decade has ever thought they had a foolproof scheme to monetize this source. And best of luck getting it scrubbed off YouTube so you have the market cornered. :rolleyes:

Counter-notice has been duly filed to MEGA. Believe it or not, that's the first one since the revamped Mlist was launched 22 months ago...so, yes, we do squeak when we walk.

Re: The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 29 Oct 2017, 10:11pm
by Marky Dread
Rat Patrol wrote:
11 Oct 2017, 11:21pm
. . .the dipshit that filed the DMCA takedown notice today on dpwolf's Jaap Edenhall SBD remaster. I'm sure it's worth one beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelion dollars to your CD-R drive and inkjet printer, since it's only like one of the Top 3 most oft-circulating Clash boots on the interwebs and you're surely the first person on Planet Earth who in the last decade has ever thought they had a foolproof scheme to monetize this source. And best of luck getting it scrubbed off YouTube so you have the market cornered. :rolleyes:

Counter-notice has been duly filed to MEGA. Believe it or not, that's the first one since the revamped Mlist was launched 22 months ago...so, yes, we do squeak when we walk.
WTF what knob head has done this? Fucking unbelievable!

Re: The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 1:58am
by Wolter
Absolutely ridiculous.

Re: The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 2:01am
by Rat Patrol
The counter-claim is still pending, though MEGA's taking its sweet time getting back to me. This is the only d/l link affected. You can still get the full audience recording from that show.

Re: The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 8:41am
by Marky Dread
Rat Patrol wrote:
30 Oct 2017, 2:01am
The counter-claim is still pending, though MEGA's taking its sweet time getting back to me. This is the only d/l link affected. You can still get the full audience recording from that show.
So is this something that will affect SonnyB's and my mix...and my most recent upgrade? Or is it just that Dpwolf version? I really don't get why an asshole would do this when as you previously said RP that it's been out there in various guises for so long.

Re: The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 11:34am
by Rat Patrol
The only legitimate copyright claim would be from the original Dutch radio station holding the broadcast rights...because the claimant is someone other than Sony. But that station has never been definitively ID'd in the 20 years the various FM sources have been circulating (likely because it may not exist anymore in the same incarnation)...so it's a tall order to prove. I documented that burden-of-proof in the counter-claim and supplied MEGA with the BMC write-up detailing the lineage of that source. Either that's enough to nullify the claim, we actually do learn the identity of the rights-holding broadcaster, or MEGA is just lazy and takes the bullshit claim at face-value: one of those three outcomes.


There's no coattails to other boots. As I said, this is the only takedown request filed on the Mlist in 2 years because all the links are scrubbed with fine-tooth comb for anything officially-released in any form. And that's pretty good for such a fat target. This is most likely just some jerkoff for-profit bootlegger too cowardly to wrestle with YouTube TOS to get all those Jaap links direct from dpwolf's remaster taken down.

If this starts to spread to other FM boots, then I'd suspect IMCT is being targeted and you and sonny might want to take notice. But there's nada evidence of that, because then I'd be seeing many takedown requests all at once pretty much in order of most-downloaded links. That's how the original IMCT d/l site got targeted. This is too one-off...and there's been zero action on YouTube where this source is way more widely circulated.

Re: The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 30 Oct 2017, 3:13pm
by Marky Dread
Cheers for that info Ratty appreciated. It seems like this moron is out for greed and trying it on. I wonder what other non Clash titles may have also been targeted.

Re: The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 10:42am
by sonnyburnit
I’ll cut a muthafucka ;)

Re: The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 12 Nov 2017, 4:04pm
by Marky Dread
sonnyburnit wrote:
12 Nov 2017, 10:42am
I’ll cut a muthafucka ;)
:mrgreen:

Re: The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 5:30pm
by BasingSt78
This pisses me off more than Trump, and that is saying something. I have long wanted to debate anyone from the music industry who claims audience tapes, FM/mixing desk, anything not officially released harms an artist/band. Case in point: The Celibate Rifles. I'm in the US, didn't know who they were... A friend sent me a nice crisp aud tape of a recent show. After hearing that, I have purchased every legit CR release, and gone to every show in my area. How, exactly, did that aud tape hurt them? Point two, who do they think the consumers are? It is us, the legions of loyal fans who will buy anything we can get our hands on. When the official releases don't satisy, and with the Clash they never will, we will catch as catch can. Once again I ask who is being harmed? Studio recordings are a different matter, certainly. In the case of an artist's work being released prematurely, ( Springsteen's "Nebraska" I think ? ) that is theft; and if done purely for profit, prosecuted. If every minute of the Rope sessions should suddenly appear for sale, guess what... I'm buying it. If it comes from Sony, and the lads/Joe's estate can benefit, fine by me. HUZZAH! If not, then that is Sony's fault for sitting on the recordings when they know there is a market for them. If that seems selfish or myopic,and perhaps it is, sorry mate. I really hope nobody involved with the ML gets jammed up on this

Re: The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 8:00pm
by Marky Dread
BasingSt78 wrote:
28 Nov 2017, 5:30pm
This pisses me off more than Trump, and that is saying something. I have long wanted to debate anyone from the music industry who claims audience tapes, FM/mixing desk, anything not officially released harms an artist/band. Case in point: The Celibate Rifles. I'm in the US, didn't know who they were... A friend sent me a nice crisp aud tape of a recent show. After hearing that, I have purchased every legit CR release, and gone to every show in my area. How, exactly, did that aud tape hurt them? Point two, who do they think the consumers are? It is us, the legions of loyal fans who will buy anything we can get our hands on. When the official releases don't satisy, and with the Clash they never will, we will catch as catch can. Once again I ask who is being harmed? Studio recordings are a different matter, certainly. In the case of an artist's work being released prematurely, ( Springsteen's "Nebraska" I think ? ) that is theft; and if done purely for profit, prosecuted. If every minute of the Rope sessions should suddenly appear for sale, guess what... I'm buying it. If it comes from Sony, and the lads/Joe's estate can benefit, fine by me. HUZZAH! If not, then that is Sony's fault for sitting on the recordings when they know there is a market for them. If that seems selfish or myopic,and perhaps it is, sorry mate. I really hope nobody involved with the ML gets jammed up on this
Hey I'm with this guy. :approve:

Re: The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 8:37pm
by Heston
BasingSt78 wrote:
28 Nov 2017, 5:30pm
This pisses me off more than Trump, and that is saying something. I have long wanted to debate anyone from the music industry who claims audience tapes, FM/mixing desk, anything not officially released harms an artist/band. Case in point: The Celibate Rifles. I'm in the US, didn't know who they were... A friend sent me a nice crisp aud tape of a recent show. After hearing that, I have purchased every legit CR release, and gone to every show in my area. How, exactly, did that aud tape hurt them? Point two, who do they think the consumers are? It is us, the legions of loyal fans who will buy anything we can get our hands on. When the official releases don't satisy, and with the Clash they never will, we will catch as catch can. Once again I ask who is being harmed? Studio recordings are a different matter, certainly. In the case of an artist's work being released prematurely, ( Springsteen's "Nebraska" I think ? ) that is theft; and if done purely for profit, prosecuted. If every minute of the Rope sessions should suddenly appear for sale, guess what... I'm buying it. If it comes from Sony, and the lads/Joe's estate can benefit, fine by me. HUZZAH! If not, then that is Sony's fault for sitting on the recordings when they know there is a market for them. If that seems selfish or myopic,and perhaps it is, sorry mate. I really hope nobody involved with the ML gets jammed up on this
Very well said.

Re: The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 8:57pm
by TeddyB Not Logged In
It’s certainly not the Clash objecting.

Re: The Megalist Would Like to Sincerely Thank. . .

Posted: 28 Nov 2017, 9:14pm
by Marky Dread
TeddyB Not Logged In wrote:
28 Nov 2017, 8:57pm
It’s certainly not the Clash objecting.
For sure mate we know that.